I would guess the misses with the driver are considerably worse than the 3 wood. Which would suggest they would score better hitting the 3 wood, but would plateau at a point and have to figure out how to hit the driver.
As mentioned, drivers tend to have x more MOI than a 3-wood. So that factors into the equation. Average dispersion 17 yards, max dispersion 60 yards, yard average distance. Average dispersion 15 yards, max dispersion 50 yards, average distance. A longer club with lower loft, all other things being equal, should not have a tighter dispersion.
I think your numbers prove his point. Yes, you have 12 percent more fairways but given your dispersion numbers my assumption is your misses are not that much greater so your driver is 30 yards closer, in similar lies.
I think the 30 yds is worth more than 12 percent more fairways? Have you compared scoring average on driver holes vs 3w holes? Travis, great question on the comparison. A 10 yard difference in total dispersion is huge. The article is great, spot-on otherwise. His percent deviation with his 3W is much worse than with his driver. He also claims this is consistent with with what he sees out on the course. Your goal off the tee should be to hit the ball as far as you can without regularly putting yourself in a situation that increases the number of strokes needed to hole out.
Jon supports this idea as well. Woody Lashen had alluded to this in believing that the dynamic loft being very similar between driver and 3-wood despite the loft being lower on a driver. Even with your stats, you have to take into account the loss of distance even though you are hitting some more fairways with your 3-wood. Another point I would make is that higher-skilled golfers will access the center of the clubface more often when hitting a fairway wood.
Either way, there is no simple answer and the real point of the article was to get people thinking differently, and more analytically. There are instances where it absolutely might make more sense for a player to use their fairway wood off the tee. I have found that many of my club mates use their woods off the tees only to find they try to ht it too hard and the shot ends up badly.
Similarly many of them try to play a strategically smart shot on the fairway only to miss -hit it so they end up worse than if they had tried the less conservative shot. Is it still worth playing driver? I hit my 3 wood to and hit 8 fairways out of I also use a 7 wood instead of 3 iron and 9 wood instead of 4 iron.
I prefer using the 7 and 9 wood to hybrids. Interesting stuff. What was the control, however? Were all the clubs used fit to the person to achieve the same parameters in launch?
Still a good article in theory, but I think it should be explained a little more and show more data to back up your findings. Oh please. He stated the persimmon was fitted to anyone and no one had hit it before.
Awesome test! I have a bag of every Titleist driver from the r up until now in my office and would LOVE to do a shoot out between all of them. I have been playing with Persimmon woods 1,3,4,5 for two years now. I rarely miss a fairway off the tee, and shots from the fairway are much easier and straight.
I started playing golf with Persimmon and blade style irons. You are right. I am 64yo and these persimmons—smaller head size and shorter length are a good match for my slower swing speed. Why jeopardise your tempo and swing pattern?
Why not mark your sweetspot and shrink it to 50 or 75 percent and make your practice aim to hit that spot with every attempt? Have guys do the small headed club for x number of swings than go out and play then hthe next time, do the above for x number of times.
Then check out the results. If the wood headed wood had the same specs as the metal wood a golfer normally uses, it would be good practice to use the wood headed wood. Otherwise no. A clubmaker could set up a club with the same specs. Another thing to do is to spray the face of the metal wood you usually use with foot powder.
The location of the ball impact will be shown on each swing. Average distance with Titanium was only ? Pretty surprising considering the highest hdcp player was a Would like to see that comparison too. The average was which is actually 10 yards longer than the average drive for a male golfer so yes the average was above average — no shock when you consider the test group.
The average distance that a lower single digit handicapper hits the ball is which is also about the average distance on the LPGA. I wish I had a screengrab of the original article, but it definitely said , not I think someone saw my comment and fixed the error. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. Sign me up for the newsletter. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.
MyGolfSpy Labs: Persimmon vs. Written By: Andrew Rice What advantage does modern driver technology actually provide the golfer over a steel shafted persimmon club?
How did that translate into total distance? The next time you get fitted please try shafts of different lengths. Titanium allows for lighter and longer shafts and larger, more forgiving heads. Physics makes the ball GO! A well positioned strike on the clubface will do wonders for both your distance and control. Good driving is less about the club and more about how you deliver the club to the ball. MGS Labs: Conforming vs. Non-Conforming Grooves Nov 25, 47 Comments.
MyGolfSpy Labs: Draws vs. Fades Feb 9, Comments. Your Name. Email Address. Want MyGolfSpy's email newsletter? Jan 6, 78 Comments. Mike boatright 4 years ago. Joe Peters 6 years ago. Andre 6 years ago. John Ineson 6 years ago. Loved the picture of the two heads. Where on earth did you find a cc persimmon? James 7 years ago. Randy 7 years ago. Bob Pegram 7 years ago. Euan Hardman 5 years ago. Painter33 4 years ago. Randy Niemela 7 years ago. Jh 6 years ago.
Dan 7 years ago. I think he would have the same reply as you. Joe Golfer 7 years ago. Regis 7 years ago. John 7 years ago. Andy J 7 years ago. Howard 7 years ago. Golfer Burnz 7 years ago. Blade 7 years ago. Charles P. Jorge 7 years ago. Greg V 7 years ago. SeniorSlammer 7 years ago. Jon 7 years ago. Kenny B 7 years ago. If your swing speeds are low, you will need more loft in your wood. In this aspect, a Strong 3-wood might not come in handy. If you use a strong 3-wood for an off-the-deck shot, it might not deliver the adequate spin rate.
Also, the club may not give the needed elevation to your ball, making it challenging to launch the ball into the air. It is mainly used by golfers to add an impressive distance to their shots.
A low spin rate that the club delivers gives very little room for error in your shots. This club manages to keep your golf ball low while sending it off to a longer distance right after impact.
It might not be the best option if you are hitting your ball off the deck but fits right in when you hit off-the-tee shots. The club would be a great fit for golfers who have no problem getting the ball off the ground and high up into the air.
The wider head size brings distance even to your mishits. If you are a pro at hitting the ball both off the tee and off the deck, the Titleist TS3 is a good choice of club. It has a tall face that aids with great off-the-tee shots. You may also notice that one of the clubs is performing significantly worse than the other. Under the guise of the professional, you can also consider trying out a shorter driver length for greater control.
In the mean time, check out the full podcast with a fantastic guest appearance from Gary McCord below! Driver versus 3-wood: What should you really hit off the tee? By: Andrew Tursky June 26, There are also plenty of high-MOI drivers on the market that take forgiveness up a notch, too. Most players use a shorter shaft in their three-wood, which will offer greater control and consistency of impact on the face.
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